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2019-12-29T14:53:26Z

Leshy:

A [[General Discussion]] regular, the first to reach maximum rep points, and a very nice chap.

[[Category:People]] [[Category:General Discussion]]

General Discussion

2005-01-09T01:52:31Z

Leshy: /* General Discussions Regulars */

== Description ==
The <strong>General Discussions</strong> forum is the part of the [[Forums|Planetarion Forums]] where all off-topic discussions not covered by any of the other forums go. While originally Planetarion was one of the main topics on this forum, the later creation of other subforums, most notably [[Planetarion Discussions]], have led to this forum being a more social place than one to discuss the actual game itself. Many of the current regular posters on this forum no longer even play the game, but remain at the forums to keep in touch and discuss a variety of generic topics.

The low influx of new players and forum posters have led to the creation of a more or less secluded community on the General Discussions forum, that may seem somewhat unfriendly and inaccessible to any newcomers. Although certainly a large amount of in-jokes are common on the forum, there is no actual hostility to anyone who has something worthwhile to say. Many of the newer posters on the forums have not let the first sight scare them off, and now continue to add something more or less worthwhile to the forums. A number of regulars can be found in the unofficial [[channel]] [[hashforums|#forums]] on [[NetGamers]].

The forum is currently moderated by [[Marilyn Manson]], [[Kurashima]] and [[Dead_Meat]].

== Random Information ==
<em>(The following was added by random posters from General Discussions, and should be taken with a grain of salt.)</em>

Originally created by [[idimmu]] back in 1998 after stealing the source code from DM after he was presumed dead, hence his new name, [[Dead_Meat]]. There have been numerous sitings of this creature, most notably on the forums. If found, please report immediately to the Butchers Society, Dante's Back Yard, London, W12 B69.

Stolen using a modified astropod by [[JammyJim]] whilst [[idimmu|idi]] was protecting his steroids (annabolic of course).

In conclusion, go shag a camel.

~Edited by ~[[Androme2]]

ps. [[Tarantula]]s Ruled

pps.
Silversmoke is not a faggot!

== General Discussions Regulars ==
*[[Dante Hicks]] is a rasterfarion commie
*[[Nodrog]] is ginger in 360 degrees and in all 4 dimensions
*[[Muslim]] is no longer a virgin yet every female in the world denies this...
*[[Gayle30uk]] is a gay female 30 years of age living in the uk
*[[JonnyBGood]] is Paddy and drunk yet can type fluent English
*[[MrL_JaKiri]] is reading this with a dicktionarary
*[[YahweII]] was [[Yahwe]]
*[[Phang]] is a manchild with 2 dads
*[[Toccata & Fugue]] is a cowardly blonde turncoat who didn't take the chance to hit GWB
*[[Andrew]] is a goff
*[[Vaio]] abandoned his cat to the evil ex
*[[sword]] is cool <i>(Is he?)</i>
*[[Stew]] wants a mention
*[[Ste]] Would like to point out he is not [[Stew]]
*[[Dace]] likes little girls, especially Japanese school girls
*[[Skiddy]] is one of [[Phang]]'s dads. On weekends, he's the other one.
*[[Leshy]] attempts to make everyone use Opera
*[[Sunday8pm]] is the only troll ever to fight off a billy goat.
*[[Silversmoke]] likes to emo hard over the opposite sex.
~Originally [[Nusselt]] wrote this & was ~Edited by ~[[Androme2]]

PS. Sophie Raworth is a fox

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Skiddy

2005-01-09T01:50:46Z

Leshy:

A [[General Discussion]] regular. He is largely noted for his mental instability, his drunken behaviour, his paedophilia, and his love of weapons in general. He is a Geordie-Australian, which probably explains a lot of the above.

[[Category:People]]

Dace

2005-01-09T01:50:29Z

Leshy:

A [[General Discussion]] poster.

A long running in-joke on GD is Dace's alleged paedophilia. Most posters will, when confronted with any news story related to the subject, chime in that Dace was somehow involved, or that he should at least be more careful in future, so as not to get caught like the person in the article.

[[Category:People]]

Muslim

2005-01-09T01:50:14Z

Leshy:

A poster on [[General Discussion]], although he has not been a regular poster for quite some time.

Muslim was a continued source of mirth for GD posters due to his magestic, almost total, lack of any real knowledge on how to handle the opposite sex. Many threads of his relating to his current problems regarding women regularly involved many pages worth of posters suggesting various 'helpful' ways on how Muslim should handle this current crisis.

[[Category:People]]

Leshy

2005-01-08T23:56:39Z

Leshy: /* Generic Info */

== Generic Info ==
Leshy is a male student from the Netherlands, currently in his early twenties.

Originally starting with Planetarion during [[Round 2]], he has played an active part in all aspects of Planetarion, having been in top alliances such as [[Fury]] and [[Eclipse]], but also a [[Forums|Forum]] moderator on [[Planetarion Discussions]], part of [[PA-Team]] in the role of moderator representative, and having written for the Planetarion [[Newsletter]]. He was a member of the galaxy that became European champions in the PA [[World Cup]] group stages, and won bronze in the finals. Retired after [[Round 12]], he currently resides on the [[General Discussion]]s forum, being most well-known for promoting the browser [http://www.opera.com Opera].

His personal website can be found at http://www.leshy.net

== Alliance History ==
*[[Round 2]] - Newbie
*[[Round 3]] - Newbie
*[[Round 4]] - Fury
*[[Round 5]] - Fury
*[[Round 6]] - Fury
*[[Round 7]] - Fury
*[[Round 8]] - Fury
*[[Round 9]] - MadCows
*[[Round 10]] - Eclipse
*[[Round 11]] - MISTU
*[[Round 12]] - MISTU

[[Category:People]]

The FAnG incident

2005-01-08T23:53:51Z

Leshy:

WebAngel (FAnG HC) pasted his logins on #support to have his account deleted. His Forrest Gump-like plan had ill effects, however, as someone used those details to log into his account and remove all members from the in-game [[alliance]]. The perpetrator was rumoured to be an [[Eclipse]] HC, however the real culprit was never found.

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Ticker Stopped (www.planetarion.com mainpage news)
Posted by Mit on 2003-12-08 00:12:30
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The ticker has been stopped temperarily due to one alliance HC pasting his login details and causing chaos for all members of that alliance as someone logged in and kicked everyone from said alliance. This goes with a lot of those members now allianceless being under attack. We have stopped the ticker to asses the situation and work out what is best for all involved as none of us have the required access to add users back to the alliance, remove the 72 hr delay for re-joining alliances or roll back the game, this is something only Fudge can do.

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Sorry for any inconvinience caused
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Battleships vs Tarantulas

2005-01-08T20:44:17Z

Leshy:

== Description ==
In [[Round 3]], the [[tech tree]] required you to make a choice between [[Battleship]]s and [[Tarantula]]s as the capital ships of choice. Planetarion player annex celebrity [[Nodrog]] created a thread analysing these two ships, advising players to go for the [[Tarantula]]. However, over the course of the round it became apparent that the extremely large amounts of [[Ghost]]s present at nearly every planet, which fired with great efficiency at [[Tarantula]]s, made this a completely useless choice.

The thread became legendary, for unknown reasons. One can only speculate that [[Nodrog]]'s fame inside the game turned against him when his thread turned out to be completely wrong, despite his prediction that [[Ghost]]s would form an obstacle.

== The Thread ==
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'''BATTLESHIPS V TARANTULAS'''

<i>The most complete, thorough article that you will read ANYWHERE about these 2 ships. I would advise everyone to read this before making their choice if you are even remotely serious about planetarion.</i>

This is around the time that everyone has to make the hardest decision in Planetarion this round. “Do I go for [[Battleship]]s or [[Tarantula]]s?”

Well, ive been wondering all round what one to go for, so yesterday I actually sat down for quite a long time, analysing the stats.

Here is what I came up with (NOTE, there is a LOT of theory and number crunching contained within this article. If you are just wanting a quick answer what is best, then this guide is not for you. This guide is aimed at the more experienced player, who is prepared to analyse stats heavily. However, there is nothing in here too advanced for a newer player who is prepared to think hard, as I have explained all the theory I used)

For the purpose of this article, I am going to be using the term Resource Cost(RC). This is the cost in [[resources]] used to produce the ship. Also, I will be rounding values off. This rounding is not significant enough to affect any of the conclusions, so all values can be treated as absolute.

I will also assume that everyone chose [[Jumpgate]]s over [[military scan]]s. If you never, then I can only offer you my pity.

[[Battleship|BATTLESHIPS]]

The first thing to not about [[battleship]]s is their awesome destructive potential. However, they are also fairly expensive. 1 [[battleship]] has a RC of 74000. This makes them as expensive as roughly 10 [[War Frigate]]s (This comparison will be based on [[War Frigate]]s, as they are the only other reasonably powerful ship with the same target class as [[Battleship]]s)

Now, lets look at some battle stats :-

10 [[War Frigates]] will kill 10 [[Interceptor]]s a tick, 11.5 [[Spider]]s, 5 [[Dagger]]s, or 1.8 [[Astropod]]s.

1 [[Battleship]] will kill 20 [[Interceptor]]s, 25 [[Spider]]s, 10 [[Dagger]]s or 3.4 [[Astropod]]s.

Therefore, [[Battleship]]s are TWICE as powerful as the equivalent value of [[War Frigate]]s. This makes them ship that does the most damage per unit of cost in the entire game. However, there are 2 problems with [[Battleship]]s

*The [[travel time]]. The extra 1 hour is CRUCIAL. Giving your target an extra hour to get defence can cause your fleet to take significantly more casualties than it would otherwise. If you plan on quick roid raids, then you can forget about using [[battleship]]s. And, since you will have a lot of [[resources]] tied down in your [[Battleship]]s, you are likely to have a lot less [[war frigate]]s than a [[Tarantula]] player. Therefore, your fleet may be too weak to travel without its [[Battleship]]s, on 8 hour ETA. This makes roiding a significant problem
*Fuel cost. [[Eonium]] is going to be scare later on, due to the incredible difficulty of stealing E [[roids]]. 1 [[Battleship]] has TWICE the fuel cost of 10 [[war frigate]]s. I don’t know just how significant this will be, as im not sure just how scare E will be.
*[[Battleship]]s die FAR too easily. It is too easy to look at the table, see the 200 armour and assume that they are indestructible. In reality, this could not be further from the truth.

[[Battleship]]s are targeted by [[Destroyer]]s and [[Ion Turret]]s. Lets look at how many of each kill a [[Battleship]]

13 [[Destroyer]]s (RC-208000)
20 [[Ion Turret]]s (RC-190000)

Now, compare this to the 10 [[War Frigate]]s :-

12 [[War Cruiser]]s (RC-312000)
54 [[Plasma Turret]]s (RC-324000)

Therefore, [[Battleship]]s die almost TWICE as easily as the equivalent value of [[War Frigate]]s.

In conclusion, [[Battleship]]s have ENORMOUS damage potential. However, the fact that they die so easily, coupled with the speed, makes them very impractical. Yes, they are AMAZING at killing ships, but the question you have to ask is “Do I even want to kill ships?”. Strange as it may sound, roughly 90% of the attack you will make are for [[roids]] alone. Killing the enemy fleet is pointless, as it reduces their score, thus limiting the amount of [[Astropod|pods]] you are able to send and still get your 20%. Also, the ease which [[Battleship]]s die means that you will lose more score on a roid raid than you would sending [[frigate]]s alone. This makes [[Battleship]]s almost totally useless for attacking.

They seem to be a good defensive ship stat wise. However, the 9hr ETA means that they are likely to miss the first tick of any battle. This limits their effectiveness as a defensive ships

Throw in the HUGE fuel cost as well, and it becomes clear that [[battleship]]s are very impractical in almost all circumstances. Yes, in isolation with a quick glance they look awesome, but compared to the 10 [[War Frigate]]s, they are always going to come of second best.

[[Tarantula|TARANTULAS]]

First, the generic value – 1 [[Tarantula]] has an RC of 18500. However, it takes 16000 crystal to produce. This ENORMOUS amount of crystal required to build one is a fairly massive blow against them already. To make up for this huge expenditure, they had better be incredibly good indeed. So are they?

Well, in one word, Yes. Lets look at the stats.

1 [[Tarantula]] freezes :-

2.5 [[War Frigate]]s (RC-17500)
2 [[War Cruiser]]s (RC-52000)
2.3 [[Destroyer]]s (RC-37000)
0.6 [[Battleship]]s (RC-44500)

The only thing to say about this is… WOW. Even assuming they are going to be targeting [[War Frigate]]s most of the time, they still freeze their own value of SC. As they will be hitting [[destroyer]]s, [[cruiser]]s and [[Battleship]]s as well, it is not unreasonable to say that a [[Tarantula]] will freeze an amount of ships with a valued greater. This value alone means nothing, so I will compare it to some other ships.

[[Battleship]] – kills approx 1/3 of its cost per tick
[[War Frigate]]s – kills approx 1/6 of its cost per tick

Most other ships kill with a ratio of about 1/6 of the cost. Therefore, [[Tarantula]]s are INCREDIBLY useful in combat, being the only ship in planetarion that can neutralize ships with a RC value greater than its own. I would have no problems whatsoever with basing my fleet solely around [[Tarantula]]s, if it wasn’t for one thing.

They die FAR too easily to [[Ghost]]s (yes, even more easily than [[battleship]]s). And [[Ion Turret]]s.

1 [[Tarantula]] is killed by :-

7.4 [[Ghost]]s (RC-59200)
7.1 [[Plasma Turret]]s (RC-42500)

[[Battleship]]s are killed by 2.5x their RC. Most other ships are killed by 4x. their SC/RC. [[Tarantula]]s are killed by about 2.5x their RC as well. However, to have to remember that 90% of a [[Tarantula]]’s cost is crystal. As crystal is a lot rarer than metal, it is INCREDIBLY inefficient to have a ship that is almost pure crystal to die at the same rate as one that is almost pure metal.

In conclusion, [[Tarantula]]s are EXCELLENT. Most ppl will be operating on a metal-crystal ratio of about 2.5/3 to 1. As most ships cost about 4x as much metal as crystal, there is going to be a LOT of excess crystal lying around. There is no better way to spend this than on [[Tarantula]]s.

When you are out roiding, the objective is to lose as little ships as possible. The amazing efficiency of the [[Tarantula]] means that they can shut down entire fleets of [[war frigate]]s with ease. However, if your target has a significant amount of [[Ghost]]s or [[Plasma Turret]]s, your [[Tarantula]]s will die easily. Therefore, it is important to scan, and make sure you pick targets without these. Mass fleets of [[Tarantula]]s aren’t going to kill much, but they are going to get you the roids that you need to build your [[War Frigate]]/[[War Cruiser]] fleets. The fact that they are made mainly from left over crystal means that building large fleets of them will not significantly affect your [[War Frigate]] production.

Basically, [[Tarantula]]s are superior to [[Battleship]]s in every single way. Most inexperienced players will go for [[Battleship]]s as they “HAVE 80 GUNS AND DON’T DIE!!!!!!!!1112”. I hope that this article has dispelled this [[Battleship]] myth.

<i>{c}[[Nodrog]] 2000</i>
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[[Category:Forum Threads]]

Battleships vs Tarantulas

2005-01-08T20:43:37Z

Leshy:

Nodrog

2005-01-08T20:10:58Z

Leshy:

This guy got his nickname by spelling his first name backwards! Wow! Draw you own conclusions!

[[Category:People]]

Leshy

2005-01-08T20:09:45Z

Leshy:

== Generic Info ==
Leshy is a 21-year old male student from the Netherlands.

Originally starting with Planetarion during [[Round 2]], he has played an active part in all aspects of Planetarion, having been in top alliances such as [[Fury]] and [[Eclipse]], but also a [[Forums|Forum]] moderator on [[Planetarion Discussions]], part of [[PA-Team]] in the role of moderator representative, and having written for the Planetarion [[Newsletter]]. He was a member of the galaxy that became European champions in the PA [[World Cup]] group stages, and won bronze in the finals. Retired after [[Round 12]], he currently resides on the [[General Discussion]]s forum, being most well-known for promoting the browser [http://www.opera.com Opera].

His personal website can be found at http://www.leshy.net

== Alliance History ==
*[[Round 2]] - Newbie
*[[Round 3]] - Newbie
*[[Round 4]] - Fury
*[[Round 5]] - Fury
*[[Round 6]] - Fury
*[[Round 7]] - Fury
*[[Round 8]] - Fury
*[[Round 9]] - MadCows
*[[Round 10]] - Eclipse
*[[Round 11]] - MISTU
*[[Round 12]] - MISTU

[[Category:People]]

Stew

2005-01-08T20:09:33Z

Leshy:

Stew is not [[Ste]]. Honest!

[[Category:People]]

Ste

2005-01-08T20:09:22Z

Leshy:

Ste is not [[Stew]]. Honest!

[[Category:People]]

Leshy

2005-01-08T20:06:22Z

Leshy:

Talk:The Triad

2005-01-08T11:46:48Z

Leshy:

I've deleted the last two sentences plus a comment about them. [[FoS]] was a block not named after its members, as was Guild (debatable).

Next time you want to comment on something like that, Mr. 82.36.127.91, please use the relevant talk page. -[[User:Banned|Banned]] 04:42, 8 Jan 2005 (GMT)

You are right in terms of FoS not being named after the alliances in it, I completely overlooked them, my apologies. As for STEL, were they actually called that during Round 3, or was that a name later given to them? I do not recall ever seeing the name pop up during Round 3 myself. -[[User:Leshy|Leshy]]