PA maker chat logs
Session Start: Sat Feb 10 06:23:04 2001 [06:23] *** Now talking in #discuss [06:23] <Jakey_coding> Hello [06:23] *** Spinner-home ([email protected]) has joined #discuss [06:23] <Zeus> lo [06:23] <Spinner-home> invite only from here on please [06:23] <Zeus> chris jakey, jakey chris [06:23] <Spinner-home> (-: [06:23] <Spinner-home> Hi Jakey! [06:23] *** Zeus sets mode: +si [06:23] <Jakey_coding> Hi Chris! [06:23] <Spinner-home> Glad to meet you mr Coding (-: [06:23] <Jakey_coding> Haha, thanks :) [06:24] <Zeus> let figure out how jakey can get access to ftp on portal. [06:24] <Spinner-home> Right [06:24] <Spinner-home> All I have here [06:24] <Spinner-home> Is the username and passowrd for the NT Administrator [06:24] <Spinner-home> Proble is [06:24] <Spinner-home> Tat user does not have FTP access [06:24] <Spinner-home> And so [06:24] <Spinner-home> I dont know what to do [06:24] <Spinner-home> NT = New to me [06:24] <Jakey_coding> I see. Do you have Terminal Server client installed on your home machine? [06:25] <Zeus> i believe its got terminal server on it..... remote operate? [06:25] <Jakey_coding> I have the client installed on this end. [06:25] <Spinner-home> hubba? [06:25] <Spinner-home> (-: [06:25] <Spinner-home> k [06:26] <Spinner-home> So I assume you can tro to remote control metal.planetarion.com with it? [06:26] <Jakey_coding> It would allow me to operate is if I was sitting at the server. [06:26] <Spinner-home> If it is installed there, yes [06:26] <Spinner-home> How to find out then? [06:26] <Jakey_coding> Yup. [06:26] <Zeus> this is what harry did also [06:26] <Spinner-home> I nkow [06:26] <Spinner-home> But I dont know if its the same prog? [06:26] <Jakey_coding> It would have to be tested to find out. I can check documentation to look for a certain port to scan. [06:26] <Spinner-home> Anyway [06:27] <Spinner-home> Is the Administrator info what you need? [06:27] <Spinner-home> or is there anything I have to do on the box on Monday? [06:27] <Jakey_coding> If you give me the Admin account you would then have to change the password on it afterwards. [06:27] <Zeus> erm [06:27] <Jakey_coding> That account needs to be protected. [06:27] <Spinner-home> of course [06:27] <Zeus> if we gave you admin account to do this could you jakey? [06:27] <Spinner-home> As all you need is an FTP account [06:28] <Zeus> setup accounto n FTP then we change admin accounton monday [06:28] <Jakey_coding> Try loggin into metal.planetarion.com using ftp with the account info first. [06:28] <Jakey_coding> See if you can get through. [06:29] <Spinner-home> didnt work [06:29] <Jakey_coding> k [06:29] <Jakey_coding> Give me a sec to weight trying the terminal serer [06:30] <Jakey_coding> Ok. I'll give it a shot. I'll need the IP or address of whichever server is the one which would have Terminal Server installed. [06:30] <Jakey_coding> Or wait... [06:30] <Spinner-home> metal.planetarion.com [06:30] <Spinner-home> the very same machine [06:30] <Jakey_coding> Isn't there a way to modify the portal via the built in admin pages? [06:30] <Jakey_coding> Does it support viewing directories? [06:31] <Spinner-home> dont think so [06:31] <Jakey_coding> Ok. I'm ready for a login/pass [06:31] <Spinner-home> The Administrator one? [06:31] <Jakey_coding> Yes. [06:31] <Spinner-home> Administrator [06:31] <Spinner-home> funky90 [06:32] <Spinner-home> Forget them quickly afterwards [06:32] <Spinner-home> (-: [06:32] <Jakey_coding> trying... [06:32] <Jakey_coding> :) [06:32] <Jakey_coding> Generally you rename the administrator on your server and give it a new name. [06:33] <Jakey_coding> Any "hackers" will always attempt to break into the Admin/Administrator accounts first [06:33] <Jakey_coding> Also you never browse the net from the server when logged in as Admin. [06:33] <Spinner-home> right [06:33] <Spinner-home> We never us it mate [06:33] <Spinner-home> Never [06:33] <Jakey_coding> Ppl have proved that the net is unsecure due to hashed password breakers. [06:33] <Jakey_coding> great [06:33] <Spinner-home> The metal machine just stands there [06:33] <Jakey_coding> Yup. Server installed [06:33] <Spinner-home> NO monitor [06:33] <Spinner-home> no nothing [06:33] <Spinner-home> (-: [06:33] <Jakey_coding> Logging in! [06:34] <Zeus> you in? [06:34] <Jakey_coding> Yup. [06:34] <Jakey_coding> Gimme a sec here to check for the user manager [06:34] <Zeus> ok now careful in their pls:) [06:35] <Jakey_coding> Don't worry, I'm proficient with NT server. [06:35] <Spinner-home> Oi mate, any way I can install such a program here on my WIn2000 machien as well? [06:35] <Spinner-home> To remote admin it? [06:35] <Jakey_coding> Yup [06:35] <Zeus> just use terminal server [06:35] <Spinner-home> k [06:35] <Jakey_coding> Harry can supply you with the client [06:35] <Spinner-home> Ok, will have to ask him, if ever resurfacing [06:35] <Spinner-home> ANywhere I can download it? [06:35] <Spinner-home> (-: [06:36] <Zeus> ill check his ftp server [06:36] <Spinner-home> - he said, trying not to look like a user of pirated software [06:36] <Jakey_coding> I believe you may be able to download it from Microsoft [06:36] <Zeus> not that idownloadc warez or anything from it honestly:) [06:36] <Jakey_coding> Either that or from msdn.microsoft.com, I think I found the portal folder.. [06:36] <Jakey_coding> haha [06:36] <Spinner-home> phone [06:38] <Zeus> nope not on his ftp [06:39] <Zeus> Jakey_coding: you sorting your access ok? [06:39] <Jakey_coding> Ok, I found the images. I'm checking out the situation with them [06:39] <Jakey_coding> I can do it directly via Admin account. [06:40] <Jakey_coding> I'm going to check permissions on file.. [06:40] <Jakey_coding> images I mean [06:46] <Zeus> how goes it Jakey_coding [06:46] <Jakey_coding> The permissions look fine on the files. They exist there. I'm checking to see if IIS has some blocks on themn [06:46] <Jakey_coding> Yup. Found problem. [06:47] <Jakey_coding> IIS (Internet Server) hasn't been told they were uploaded [06:47] <Zeus> can correct? [06:47] <Jakey_coding> yup [06:47] <Jakey_coding> Working.. [06:48] <Zeus> while their jakey [06:48] <Zeus> could you look at the links on left hand site. [06:48] <Zeus> most are not working.. [06:48] <Zeus> Story So Far [06:49] <Zeus> Getting Started [06:49] <Jakey_coding> Ok.. We'll see if they work after this is done [06:52] <Jakey_coding> Aaah. I believe the portal exists on E: and not C: [06:52] <Jakey_coding> Let me check it [06:53] <Jakey_coding> Ok, I'm going into the shell for a minute. I'll be unresponsive.. [06:53] <Zeus> we just added a new hdd for the allaince hosting [06:59] <Spinner-home> phew [06:59] <Spinner-home> long phone call [06:59] <Spinner-home> Mysternal (: [06:59] <Spinner-home> WHat we clal a social call (-: [06:59] <Jakey_coding> Success!! [07:00] <Spinner-home> woot! [07:00] <Jakey_coding> Alright, now which links on the left column were buggy? [07:00] <Jakey_coding> I can't believe no one sumbitted my SL pics :( [07:00] <Spinner-home> its the article.asp [07:00] <Jakey_coding> k [07:00] <Spinner-home> That asp does not work [07:00] <Spinner-home> or [07:00] <Spinner-home> The links rteturn the wrong article id [07:00] <Jakey_coding> k [07:00] <Spinner-home> so [07:00] <Spinner-home> Getting Started [07:00] <Spinner-home> Wap Guide [07:01] <Spinner-home> Story So Far [07:01] <Spinner-home> are the ones not working [07:01] <Jakey_coding> k [07:01] <Zeus> she ok chris? [07:01] <Spinner-home> And I have posted an aritcle as well, but no worries about that one [07:01] <Spinner-home> She is ok [07:01] <Spinner-home> Will be here tonight [07:01] <Spinner-home> Party for Therese [07:01] <Spinner-home> (-: [07:02] <Spinner-home> Jakey, oh you master of NT [07:02] <Spinner-home> QUick question [07:02] * Zeus is jumping on plane in an hour...should be thier and make it in time:) [07:02] <Zeus> hehe [07:02] <Zeus> having party sdame place as yours birthday party? [07:02] <Spinner-home> Asp requires IIS? [07:02] <Spinner-home> NO mate, that place was rented out, so it will be here at home [07:02] <Spinner-home> ): [07:02] <Jakey_coding> Not really. [07:02] <Jakey_coding> You can use ASP on unix boxes too. [07:02] <Spinner-home> I can run ASp on my Windows Apache machine? [07:02] <Jakey_coding> Yup. [07:02] <Spinner-home> heh [07:03] <Jakey_coding> You have to get the right interpreter for it though [07:03] <Spinner-home> Ah, right [07:03] <Jakey_coding> I believe that was something new from last year [07:03] <Spinner-home> Figured I would have to learn it some day (-: [07:04] <Zeus> yep images work:) [07:04] <Jakey_coding> Test your articles men [07:04] <Spinner-home> heh [07:04] <Spinner-home> Wow, Articles work again! [07:05] <Zeus> at last:) [07:05] <Spinner-home> rofl [07:05] <Spinner-home> May I ask what you did Jakey? [07:05] <Jakey_coding> :) [07:05] <Jakey_coding> Yes, I replaced the old ones with the new ones. [07:05] <Jakey_coding> New drive is E: , old is C: [07:06] <Spinner-home> Harry must have been...erm..tired not to manage that (-: [07:07] <Zeus> yea:( [07:07] <Zeus> but ill still call him this evening [07:07] <Spinner-home> okies [07:07] <Spinner-home> Zeus, now that we are up and runnign again [07:07] <Jakey_coding> We aren't 100% I believe. [07:07] <Spinner-home> Can the last creators hour log be added? [07:08] <Jakey_coding> If those files made that difference, there must be more [07:08] <Spinner-home> hm [07:08] <Spinner-home> k [07:08] <Spinner-home> Testing all links then [07:08] <Jakey_coding> k [07:08] <Spinner-home> http://metal.planetarion.com/stats/planetarion.html [07:08] <Jakey_coding> k [07:08] <Spinner-home> the right menu link called #planetarion stats [07:09] <Spinner-home> I duno what it is supposed to hold though [07:09] <Spinner-home> >eus? [07:09] <Spinner-home> Zeus? [07:09] <Zeus> getting.. [07:10] <Zeus> erm.. [07:10] <Zeus> thats the irc stats page [07:10] <Spinner-home> Jakey: [07:10] <Spinner-home> In the left menu: [07:10] <Spinner-home> The RULES link [07:10] <Spinner-home> Could you have it open in THE SAME WINDOW? [07:10] <Spinner-home> Not a different target? [07:10] <Jakey_coding> k [07:10] <Zeus> yes [07:11] <Jakey_coding> The stats/planetarion doesn't seem to actually exist. [07:11] <Jakey_coding> I may have to nil that link. [07:11] <Jakey_coding> I'll do that Rules first. [07:12] <Zeus> erm. [07:12] <Spinner-home> All other links tested [07:12] <Spinner-home> It was only the article.asp I think [07:12] <Jakey_coding> k [07:12] <Jakey_coding> I have to tract down the offending A HREF's TARGET tag, one sec [07:13] <Spinner-home> k [07:14] <Spinner-home> Zeus [07:14] <Zeus> Jakey_coding: what time over thier at the moment? [07:14] <Zeus> yes? [07:14] <Spinner-home> The dropdown on default2.asp [07:14] <Jakey_coding> 6:30 am [07:14] <Spinner-home> YOu know it goes outside screen? [07:14] <Jakey_coding> hmm. Nope. [07:15] <Zeus> yes. [07:15] <Spinner-home> k [07:15] <Jakey_coding> I'll add that to my list [07:15] <Zeus> Jakey_coding: you have seen the dropdown? [07:15] <Jakey_coding> Don't believe so. [07:16] <Spinner-home> default2.asp [07:16] <Spinner-home> But there are lots of faults on that page [07:16] <Spinner-home> Some weird banners and stuff [07:16] <Spinner-home> (-: [07:16] <Zeus> have a look at it. harry last told me he had the new images that correct the size & position. [07:16] <Spinner-home> ah [07:16] <Jakey_coding> I'll check it right after this one. I found the offending tags to fix. Should I make all offending tags open in same window, or just a select few including rules? [07:16] <Zeus> 6:30AM!!! [07:16] <Zeus> have you slept? [07:16] <Jakey_coding> No. I don't need to sleep, I'm a programmer :) [07:16] <Spinner-home> actually Jakey [07:17] <Spinner-home> heh [07:17] <Zeus> rofl:) [07:17] <Spinner-home> All others can be as they are [07:17] <Spinner-home> Except for the rules one [07:17] <Jakey_coding> k [07:17] <Spinner-home> oh [07:18] <Spinner-home> And while you are here(-: [07:18] <Zeus> well if your not going to sleep and feel upto it .... check the dropdown code over and impliment if possible. [07:18] <Jakey_coding> k [07:18] <Spinner-home> Is there any web reporting tool running on this machine? [07:18] <Spinner-home> Like a stats page for the site? [07:18] <Spinner-home> Pages, hits and so on? [07:18] <Zeus> the whole right hand links to be taken away [07:18] <Jakey_coding> I'll check [07:18] <Zeus> i believe there is. [07:18] * Zeus trys to rememebr its name [07:18] <Spinner-home> Might be [07:18] <Spinner-home> I just dont know where to look for it [07:18] <Jakey_coding> Rules fixed [07:19] <Spinner-home> thank you! [07:19] <Zeus> is it webtrends? [07:19] <Jakey_coding> Is that for me? [07:19] <Spinner-home> ? [07:20] <Jakey_coding> <Zeus> is it webtrends? [07:20] <Spinner-home> ah yes [07:20] <Spinner-home> He was wondering if the web reporter was called somehting like that [07:20] <Spinner-home> I wouldnt know [07:20] <Zeus> webtrends = makers of the reporting stats tools [07:20] <Jakey_coding> Aah. I see. [07:20] <Jakey_coding> I'll check after I look at default2.asp [07:20] <Zeus> ok [07:20] <Spinner-home> Okies [07:21] <Spinner-home> I have to go get a shower [07:21] <Spinner-home> Jakey, Thank you thank you and THANK YOU! [07:21] <Zeus> but i do know if you run it on the log file...it will take a few hours to finis the report:) [07:21] <Spinner-home> rofl [07:21] <Jakey_coding> Your welcome Chris :) [07:21] <Zeus> k chris...wish tress happy birthday! [07:21] <Spinner-home> I will! [07:21] <Jakey_coding> I'll see you later Chris! [07:21] <Spinner-home> YOu sure will! [07:22] <Zeus> <Laser> zeus you here? [07:22] <Zeus> <Zeus> yes? [07:22] <Zeus> <Laser> um you know when spinner is comming on? [07:22] <Spinner-home> WHere are you located Jakey? [07:22] <Zeus> -Laser- i have a beta question for him [07:22] <Spinner-home> sigh [07:22] <Zeus> u want to take that m8ty? [07:22] <Jakey_coding> I'm in Canada. [07:22] <Spinner-home> I will go into betatesters for a while [07:22] <Spinner-home> AH, ok [07:22] <Spinner-home> catch up later! [07:22] <Zeus> roger [07:23] <Jakey_coding> Ok. The default2 has its div tags going outside the borders. [07:23] <Jakey_coding> This has to be remedied by offsetting them so they don't exceed the right hand side. [07:23] <Zeus> k [07:24] <Jakey_coding> That menu as it sits is off to far to the top right and isn't convinient. [07:24] <Zeus> the menu also imho was too small [07:24] <Jakey_coding> Yes [07:24] <Jakey_coding> The most commonly used links always have to be one click away. They can't be hidden inside nesting. [07:24] <Zeus> i wanted the menu starting from middle of the page going right [07:24] <Jakey_coding> Sounds great. [07:24] <Jakey_coding> About Zwang's portal design: [07:24] <Zeus> yes? [07:25] <Jakey_coding> The design implements frames to seperate the top menu from the bottom. [07:25] <Jakey_coding> He prefers it this way but frames steal a % of web page realestate which is precious [07:25] <Zeus> I like the look, but theres a lot which needs amended. [07:25] <Jakey_coding> Yes. [07:26] <Zeus> and the frames is nono [07:26] <Jakey_coding> We kinda debated the frames and came to a conclusion to each want the opposite. [07:26] <Jakey_coding> I agree. [07:26] <Jakey_coding> Hopefully he'll scrap it without a battle. He really likes his frames :) [07:26] <Zeus> I asked him to set time for us to discuss it further. [07:26] <Jakey_coding> Yes, this Sunday. [07:26] <Zeus> so expecdt email from him [07:27] <Jakey_coding> I'm free to do whatever is on your list next. [07:27] <Zeus> you sure? [07:27] <Zeus> you havent slept [07:27] <Jakey_coding> yes. [07:27] <Zeus> :) [07:27] <Jakey_coding> Thats ok. As long as the projects aren't too long. [07:28] <Jakey_coding> I have to do some tech work in two hours for a while. [07:28] <Jakey_coding> I'm too dedicated to computer work. Its my only passion [07:28] <Zeus> well dropdown and your poll implimentation is prorities [07:28] <Jakey_coding> The poll comes #1 then. [07:28] <Zeus> its ready? [07:29] <Jakey_coding> No. I still need to finish it. I thought I was going to have it done tonight but other small projects came around. [07:29] <Jakey_coding> The secret is to close down IRC and not respond to outside influences. [07:29] <Jakey_coding> Do you have MSIM? [07:30] <Zeus> no [07:30] <Jakey_coding> There is also a scripting error on the drop down menu system. [07:30] <Zeus> we use icq [07:30] <Jakey_coding> Ok. I can use ICQ then. My contact info in on the new forum. [07:30] <Jakey_coding> My ICQ is 669243 [07:31] <Jakey_coding> I see the layout of the portal changing so drastically. I really like the current look we have though [07:31] <Jakey_coding> If we could preserve this look and do some changes to reflect the old look then we'll be in business. [07:31] <Zeus> 13549791 [07:31] <Jakey_coding> k [07:32] <Zeus> also pnn needs to become more promiate.. [07:32] <Jakey_coding> Definatly. The most popular/commonly used links will be the easiest to get to and the first ones listed. [07:33] <Jakey_coding> Welcome to my ICQ list :) [07:33] <Zeus> :) [07:33] <Zeus> dont give to anyone pls as Im fedup declining [07:33] <Jakey_coding> No problem. I'm 100% private. [07:34] <Jakey_coding> I know what its like to have 100 ppl wanting on your ICQ list. I'm the Founder of a Starcraft clan with 100 members :/ [07:34] <Zeus> ok i gotta talk some merchandising so be back later [07:34] <Jakey_coding> I felt bad declining them all [07:34] <Jakey_coding> ok, later matey [07:35] <Jakey_coding> Have you ever slipped an extra 100 frigs into someone's base before :) [07:35] <Jakey_coding> Wait, I don't want to even think that thought ! [07:36] <Zeus> hehe [07:36] <Jakey_coding> Once something like that starts happening it can cause unbalances big time [07:36] <Zeus> indeed [07:36] <Zeus> we avoid if at all possiblew [07:37] <Jakey_coding> Yes. I agree. [07:37] <Jakey_coding> I'll let you get to work here... I have some poll coding to do [07:38] <Zeus> k:) [07:38] <Zeus> gl [07:38] <Jakey_coding> :) [07:46] <Jakey_coding> Ok, about the /stats/planetarion that extension of the site is turned off but it does infact exist. Its just "stopped" and needs to be started. Session Close: Sat Feb 10 07:47:08 2001
Session Start: Tue Feb 13 04:00:36 2001
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[04:08] *** Jakey is now known as Jakey_coding
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Session Close: Tue Feb 13 04:44:01 2001
Session Start: Tue Feb 13 20:06:05 2001
[20:06] *** Now talking in #discuss
[20:23] *** Jakey is now known as Jakey_coding
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