Elysium:R10 Bugs Public Elysium Witchhunt

Walken (one of the t10 Elysium planets at that time) being caught using a bug in PaX code caused an upstir.

Session Start: Wed Nov 12 23:16:48 2003 Session Ident: #HC-Conf [23:16] * Now talking in #HC-Conf [23:17] * Rob`afk has joined #HC-Conf [23:17] * Jurgen has joined #HC-Conf [23:18] * [FAnG]Kaifux has joined #HC-Conf [23:18] <[FAnG]Kaifux> lo [23:18] <Jurgen> I think this should be enough [23:18] <[FAnG]Kaifux> O_O [23:18] <Jurgen> there was vgn vision dragons nd and wolfpack attacking also thoz [23:18] <Jurgen> but me and kaifux made that attack [23:18] <Jurgen> etc. [23:19] <[FAnG]Kaifux> yes MrBrick [23:19] <[FAnG]Kaifux> i got up [23:19] * MrBrick sets mode: +m [23:19] <MrBrick> Righty [23:19] * cheerios: you're not channel operator [23:19] <MrBrick> Ely, Eclipse, WP too [23:21] * beste|away has joined #HC-Conf [23:21] * Phil^ has joined #HC-Conf [23:21] * Phil^ has left #HC-Conf [23:21] * MrBrick changes topic to 'Tag so I know exactly who's who please' [23:21] * GlowDogAWAY has joined #HC-Conf [23:21] * Jurgen is now known as [Dragons]Jurgen [23:21] * GlowDogAWAY is now known as [VGN]GlowDog [23:22] * hatteh has joined #HC-Conf [23:22] * beste|away is now known as [ND]besteman [23:22] * Phil^ has joined #HC-Conf [23:22] * Tuhoaja has joined #HC-Conf [23:22] * Caliban has joined #HC-Conf [23:22] * Caliban is now known as [WP]Caliban [23:22] * MrBrick sets mode: +o Phil^ [23:22] * Tuhoaja is now known as [Drag]Tuhoaja [23:23] * HexAwayish has joined #HC-Conf [23:23] * MrBrick sets mode: -m [23:23] * Squidleh has joined #HC-Conf [23:23] <[VGN]GlowDog> lo [23:23] <MrBrick> We got everyone yet? [23:23] <[ND]besteman> lolo [23:23] * Squidleh is now known as [WP]Squidly [23:23] * [WP]Nexus01 has joined #HC-Conf [23:23] * [Drag]Tuhoaja is now known as [Dragons]Tuho [23:23] <[WP]Caliban> nexus get out [23:24] <[VGN]GlowDog> not yet [23:24] <[WP]Nexus01> jurgen told me to join [23:24] <[Dragons]Jurgen> nexus is the guy who attacked [23:24] <[Dragons]Jurgen> he can stay [23:24] <[WP]Caliban> ohw [23:24] <[WP]Caliban> what's going on then even? [23:24] * Focht has joined #HC-Conf [23:24] * [FAnG]LEFF has joined #HC-Conf [23:24] <[WP]Nexus01> yeah i dont drink coffee or wine the whole day like you caliban i att time to time :P [23:24] * WA|ZzZz has joined #HC-Conf [23:24] * Rob`afk is now known as [Eclipse]Rob [23:24] <[FAnG]LEFF> yo ladies [23:24] <HexAwayish> we are tagging in here? [23:25] <MrBrick> If you could HexAwayish [23:25] <[Dragons]Jurgen> HexAwayish: topic... [23:25] * Focht is now known as [Eclipse]Focht [23:25] <[WP]Squidly> topic says to I guess [23:25] * [Racer] has joined #HC-Conf [23:25] <MrBrick> Where's me Ely fella [23:25] * argent has joined #HC-Conf [23:25] * HexAwayish is now known as [Dragons]Hexy [23:25] * WA|ZzZz is now known as [FAnG]WebAngel [23:25] <hatteh> Cheerios [23:25] * argent is now known as [Sera]argent [23:25] <hatteh> is your ely fella [23:25] * Phil^ has quit IRC (Quit: r/c) [23:25] * mist|zZz has joined #HC-Conf [23:25] * MrBrick slaps cheerios [23:25] * Ladybug has joined #HC-Conf [23:25] * [Racer] is now known as [Ely]Racer [23:25] * MrBrick sets mode: +m [23:26] * Ice-Lady has joined #HC-Conf [23:26] <MrBrick> Right then. [23:26] <MrBrick> Let's start this thing. [23:26] * Ladybug is now known as [Sera]Ladybug [23:26] * cheerios is now known as [Ely]cheerios [23:26] <MrBrick> Ok, so we appear to have a bug here. I'm getting more pressure than I'd like from the Alliance HCs about this, but I understand the issue. [23:27] * KinGSmity has joined #HC-Conf [23:27] * KinGSmity has left #HC-Conf [23:27] * Phil^ has joined #HC-Conf [23:27] * RobTD has joined #HC-Conf [23:27] * darts has joined #HC-Conf [23:27] * RobTD is now known as [Sera]RobTD [23:28] * darts is now known as [sera]darts [23:29] <MrBrick> Nothing has been tracked down yet [23:29] <MrBrick> regarding the bug. [23:29] <MrBrick> Though I'm working on it. [23:29] <MrBrick> What I want to know is [23:29] <MrBrick> is if this bug exists [23:29] * [sera]darts is now known as [Sera]darts [23:29] <MrBrick> have you knowledge of it being abused [23:29] * [FAnG]LEFF is now known as yes [23:29] * yes is now known as [FAnG]LEFF [23:29] <MrBrick> and what you believe the final outcome of a) the meeting and b) the abuse is. [23:30] * Soron has joined #HC-Conf [23:30] * Soron is now known as [VGN]Soron [23:30] <MrBrick> We all know that if someone has a loophole to exploit, then they will not necessarilly tell the PA Team [23:30] <MrBrick> because it gives them an advantage. [23:31] <MrBrick> My point would be that this may make your score bigger, but it doesnt benefit the game or the community. [23:31] <MrBrick> THe community is the core of this game, and losing 100s of players due to one or two people not assisting in PA's development is not an ideal situation. [23:32] <MrBrick> If Alliances quit because other Allliances wont play fairly, then you may well win, but at a very very shallow price. [23:32] <MrBrick> If ANY of you want to explain the mechanics of this bug do so now. There will be no retribution. [23:32] * MrBrick sets mode: -m [23:32] <[Dragons]Jurgen> cehck pm if u've got time [23:33] <[FAnG]Kaifux> well i guess it's recall timing or so :/ [23:33] <[FAnG]Kaifux> <--- dunno exactly [23:33] <[WP]Nexus01> i got it explained [23:33] <[WP]Nexus01> would have to reread it and translate if noone know it [23:33] <[ND]besteman> a bug that boosts your score? [23:33] <[WP]Nexus01> no [23:33] <[FAnG]Kaifux> a bug that gets your fleet home [23:33] * MrBrick sets mode: +i [23:33] <[Eclipse]Focht> what bug are you refering 2 ? [23:33] <[ND]besteman> :/ [23:33] <[FAnG]LEFF> ok [23:33] <[WP]Nexus01> to get your fleet back within 0 ticks [23:33] <[Dragons]Jurgen> [ND]besteman: the thing that 4:9:4 was about to be fleetcatched [23:33] <[Dragons]Hexy> maybe ask the one that uses the bug what they are doing? [23:33] <[FAnG]LEFF> if you listen to me [23:33] <[FAnG]WebAngel> someone everybody knows is using this 'bug', maybe we should ask him? [23:33] <[Eclipse]Focht> abit information would be cool ;) [23:33] <[FAnG]LEFF> arg [23:34] <[Dragons]Jurgen> but didn't cause his fleet went home in 2 tick or less [23:34] <[ND]besteman> ah [23:34] <[Dragons]Jurgen> and owned also the attacking fleets that were sent before [23:34] <[Dragons]Tuho> which would have capped max [23:34] <[FAnG]Kaifux> yes [23:34] <[Dragons]Tuho> with 0 losses [23:34] <[FAnG]WebAngel> Ficht, basically, you have your ships in attack and they are in def 2 ticks later [23:34] <[Sera]Ladybug> hmmmm [23:34] <[Eclipse]Focht> and youre sure he knew about the bug ? [23:34] <[FAnG]WebAngel> Focht even [23:34] <MrBrick> Let's keep this organised [23:34] <[FAnG]Kaifux> [Eclipse]Focht 99% [23:34] <[Eclipse]Focht> and it just didnt happen to him ? [23:34] <[Ely]cheerios> Our defence there was normal Elysium defence, nothing out of the ordinary there. [23:34] <[FAnG]Kaifux> it happened not the first time to ely [23:35] <[Eclipse]Rob> fwiw, i know nothing about the bug or how it works [23:35] <[WP]Squidly> me neither. [23:35] <[FAnG]LEFF> i can show [23:35] <[Sera]Ladybug> nor I [23:35] <[FAnG]Kaifux> [Ely]cheerios just 4:9:4 ships got home in 1 tick [23:35] <[WP]Nexus01> give me a few sec pls and i can try to explain it [23:35] <[FAnG]Kaifux> ok queit [23:35] <[FAnG]Kaifux> [WP]Nexus01 shoot [23:36] * MrBrick sets mode: +v [WP]Nexus01 [23:36] * MrBrick sets mode: +m [23:36] <[WP]Nexus01> searching fro the log and just asked a m8, havent it done myslef [23:38] <[WP]Nexus01> maybe someone explain first what happened tody with 4 9 4 fist? [23:38] * [FAnG]Kaifux is now known as I_can [23:38] <[WP]Nexus01> ok [23:38] * I_can is now known as or_jurgen [23:38] <[WP]Nexus01> first you have to send your fleet out [23:39] <[WP]Nexus01> wait a few ticks [23:39] * MrBrick sets mode: +v [Dragons]Jurgen [23:39] <[WP]Nexus01> when you want them back [23:39] * or_jurgen is now known as [FAnG]Kaifux [23:39] <MrBrick> back button on browser perchance? [23:39] <[WP]Nexus01> go back in the browser [23:39] <[WP]Nexus01> to the site oyu launched them [23:39] * MrBrick sets mode: +v [FAnG]Kaifux [23:39] <[WP]Nexus01> where the ships are still eta8 [23:39] <MrBrick> Thought as much. [23:39] <[WP]Nexus01> cancel att [23:39] <[WP]Nexus01> then [23:40] <[WP]Nexus01> you have to go another few site back where the fleet is still at home [23:40] <[FAnG]Kaifux> omg.. [23:40] <[WP]Nexus01> enter a new target and send [23:40] <[WP]Nexus01> recall and it shoudl be at home [23:40] <[FAnG]Kaifux> 4:9:4 abused that 100% [23:40] <[FAnG]Kaifux> he landed on 15:7:8 [23:41] <[FAnG]Kaifux> in some ticks these ships were at home [23:41] <[WP]Nexus01> maybe someone could check it? [23:41] <MrBrick> Heh, [23:41] <MrBrick> Bloody marvellous. [23:41] <[WP]Nexus01> there is another bug i know and has to do with the prios i told already mrbrick if you want to hear it again...it more or less the same system [23:42] <[FAnG]Kaifux> and i know [23:42] <[FAnG]Kaifux> the bug [23:42] <[FAnG]Kaifux> about the resourse income [23:43] <[FAnG]Kaifux> 1 sek [23:43] <[FAnG]Kaifux> [21:14] <sliekas> METAL 2098 524500 5000 396497 925997 [23:43] <[FAnG]Kaifux> [21:14] <sliekas> CRYSTAL 1930 482500 3000 364587 850087 [23:43] <[FAnG]Kaifux> [21:14] <sliekas> EONIUM 1803 450750 3000 340616 794366 [23:43] <[FAnG]Kaifux> [21:14] <sliekas> mining [23:43] <[FAnG]Kaifux> [21:14] <sliekas> 757.185 694.265 648.862 [23:43] <[FAnG]Kaifux> [21:14] <sliekas> res [23:43] <[FAnG]Kaifux> [21:14] <sliekas> after tick [23:43] <[FAnG]Kaifux> that says all MrBrick [23:43] <[FAnG]Kaifux> i believe it related to finance centres [23:43] <[WP]Nexus01> what is wrong? [23:43] <MrBrick> brb [23:44] <[FAnG]Kaifux> METAL 2098 524500 5000 396497 925997 [23:44] <[FAnG]Kaifux> he has to mine 925997 see? [23:44] <[FAnG]Kaifux> 757.185 - after tick - no hacking [23:44] <[FAnG]Kaifux> see the difference? [23:44] <[Dragons]Jurgen> ok... in the mean time I can explain 4:9:4 stuff to every1 ^^ [23:44] <[WP]Nexus01> i dont get it [23:44] <[FAnG]Kaifux> [WP]Nexus01 same to me [23:44] <[FAnG]Kaifux> one of my gal m8s gets more than he should! [23:45] <[Dragons]Jurgen> nexus kaifux if u keep it quiet for a while? [23:45] <[FAnG]Kaifux> like he has to get 440k or so he gets around 450k or so [23:45] <[FAnG]Kaifux> [Dragons]Jurgen np [23:45] <[Dragons]Jurgen> > > We attempted to fleetcatch 4:9:4 [23:45] <[Dragons]Jurgen> > > He was getting through on RAmmstein or summit like that (Fang member) [23:45] <[Dragons]Jurgen> >15:7:8 [23:45] <[Dragons]Jurgen> > > http://cabeza.lockhead.net/index.php?page=parser&scanid=1646577906 [23:45] <[Dragons]Jurgen> > > (as u can c from the scan) [23:45] <[Dragons]Jurgen> > > So we sent retals and counted what tick his fleet would return. [23:45] <[Dragons]Jurgen> > > U can c Walken's Stalwarts landing there (15:7:8) from this parse. [23:45] <[Dragons]Jurgen> > > [23:45] <[Dragons]Jurgen> >http://tools.visionhq.org/parser.php?rid=02e2637e67d68c9fcd10d6a07204d8a0&se [23:45] <[Dragons]Jurgen> >ction=pa [23:45] * [Eclipse]Focht is now known as Focht|afk [23:45] <[Dragons]Jurgen> hum.. that paste was ruined a bit ^^ [23:46] <[Dragons]Jurgen> > > OMG WE R GETTING THROUGH!!! [23:46] <[Dragons]Jurgen> > > http://cabeza.lockhead.net/index.php?page=parser&scanid=625382960 [23:46] <[Dragons]Jurgen> > > [23:46] <[Dragons]Jurgen> > > WTF!!! HIS STALWARTS RETURNED 8H TRAVEL IN 2H [23:46] <[Dragons]Jurgen> > > http://cabeza.lockhead.net/index.php?page=parser&scanid=1089509974 [23:46] <[Dragons]Jurgen> <Walken|PM> Yes I did abuse a bug. But if Brick wanna close me, he can do that. I knew then I did that people can monitoring me. [23:46] * MrBrick sets mode: -vvv [Dragons]Jurgen [FAnG]Kaifux [WP]Nexus01 [23:47] <MrBrick> Right, sorry about that, I was just checking a few things [23:47] <MrBrick> had eyes elswhere briefly. [23:47] <MrBrick> I'm going to have to ignore your PMs for now. [23:47] <MrBrick> If I can't get this bug fixed tonight by about midnight, I am going to consider stopping the ticker. [23:48] * Titos has joined #HC-Conf [23:48] * MrBrick sets mode: -m [23:48] <[FAnG]LEFF> well [23:48] <[ND]besteman> i would consider that a bug [23:48] <[FAnG]Kaifux> good MrBrick [23:48] <[FAnG]WebAngel> sounds fair [23:48] <[FAnG]LEFF> 4.9:4 destroyed 3mil fleets just today [23:48] <[FAnG]Kaifux> and would be nice for attacker (that one who lost A LOT cr) to get cr back [23:48] <[Dragons]Tuho> what will happen with teh ships lost at 4:9:4 , and 4:9:4 himself? [23:49] <[FAnG]LEFF> yeah [23:49] * Titos is now known as [Sera]Titos [23:49] * MrBrick sets mode: +m [23:49] <[Ely]cheerios> LEFF: 2M was killed by defence, by Ely planets. [23:49] #HC-Conf Cannot send to channel [23:49] <MrBrick> Sorry to keep doing this. [23:49] <MrBrick> But I want to say something on a more personal note. [23:50] <MrBrick> PA is slowly getting back on the right track here. the team is working hard, and initial redevelopment to produce the game the community wants is going well. [23:50] <MrBrick> However, Alliances hiding bugs is not going to help anyone. Nor is abusing the exile bug to create Alliance strongholds. [23:50] <MrBrick> You can do it all you want. [23:50] <MrBrick> I'm sure its worth the Kudos [23:51] <MrBrick> Playing unfairly and abusing whatever flaws there maybe doesnt strike me as an enjoyable method nor a challenging method of winning. [23:51] <MrBrick> I was under the impression the game revolved around friends, politics and dedication. [23:51] <MrBrick> Personally I dont see cheating others fulfilling any of the above. [23:51] <MrBrick> PA can and will be what it should be again. [23:52] <MrBrick> But not without the community. [23:52] <MrBrick> As figureheads we all have a responibility to the game, your alliances and the community as a whole. [23:52] <MrBrick> yes? [23:52] <MrBrick> So. Let's get the community to work together, let's build Planetarion to be the best damned game there is. Let's fight each other fairly. [23:52] * MrBrick sets mode: -m [23:53] <hatteh> well said man [23:53] <[Dragons]Tuho> yet there's still the question about 4:9:4 :/ [23:53] <[Ely]cheerios> Well put. [23:53] <[Sera]darts> yup nice [23:53] <[WP]Nexus01> yes [23:53] <[FAnG]LEFF> indeed [23:53] <[FAnG]WebAngel> we are almost all working on it very hard [23:53] <[FAnG]LEFF> will we get our fleets back ? :[ [23:53] <[Sera]Ladybug> well those fleets died because of the bug [23:53] <MrBrick> I'll put up with all the shit that creators should get. You'll get shit for being HCs. [23:53] <[Sera]Ladybug> what will be ammended for that [23:53] <MrBrick> It's part of the game [23:53] <MrBrick> None of us get paid. [23:53] <MrBrick> seeing things like [23:53] <MrBrick> <Walken|PM> Yes I did abuse a bug. But if Brick wanna close me, he can do that. I knew then I did that people can monitoring me. [23:53] <[WP]Caliban> nha we pay for the servers we use :) [23:53] <MrBrick> Dont impress me. [23:54] <MrBrick> Nor should it impress ANYONE. [23:54] <MrBrick> "Oh look we can win by abusing a bug" [23:54] <MrBrick> Yeah... [23:54] <MrBrick> go go go [23:54] <MrBrick> Skill. [23:54] <MrBrick> heh [23:54] <MrBrick> :) [23:54] <[WP]Squidly> that's kind of pathetic tbh... :| [23:54] <[Dragons]Tuho> thus. something to be done about this particular incident and its results? [23:54] <[WP]Nexus01> many ships died at 4 9 4 and he still owns the attacker roids [23:54] <Focht|afk> nexus you could have scanned tho [23:54] <Focht|afk> jgp display returning fleets [23:54] <[Dragons]Jurgen> Focht|afk: I pasted the scans above [23:54] <[WP]Nexus01> Focht? [23:54] <[Dragons]Tuho> focth: infact it did NOT [23:54] <Focht|afk> whatever eta they are [23:55] <[Dragons]Jurgen> how the hell would we know what happened? [23:55] <[Sera]darts> MrBrick im new here but 1 question what r the creators doing about all those leaving pa cos of paying etc etc [23:55] <[WP]Nexus01> focht read first then speak [23:55] <[Ely]cheerios> We covered 4.9.4 with pure defence, his ships or not his ships, the attackers got owned by other causes than this bug that was put forth. [23:55] <[FAnG]LEFF> no [23:55] <[FAnG]LEFF> i can proof it [23:55] <[Dragons]Tuho> cheerios you don't know what you talk about atm [23:55] * MrBrick sets mode: +m [23:55] <MrBrick> Let's stop the E-penis fights about it [23:55] * [FAnG]LEFF is now known as LEMMEEXPLAIN [23:55] <MrBrick> It's happened [23:55] * LEMMEEXPLAIN is now known as [FAnG]LEFF [23:55] <MrBrick> and some people have abused it, some havent. [23:55] * [WP]Nexus01 is now known as One_by_One [23:56] <MrBrick> I'm not going to start throwing stones atm. [23:56] * One_by_One is now known as [WP]Nexus01 [23:56] <MrBrick> You can all blame whoever you wish. Me if you want. [23:56] <MrBrick> but it wont help, it's happened. [23:56] <MrBrick> All I want to do is press a point. [23:57] <MrBrick> Planetarion will not and cannot be fixed and evolve if the community hides bugs to benefit themselves. [23:57] * MrBrick sets mode: -m [23:57] <MrBrick> Handbags on the floor now please. [23:57] <[Sera]Ladybug> lol [23:57] <[Sera]Ladybug> sorry don't use those [23:58] <[FAnG]Kaifux> MrBrick so let's make this straight no changes in the universe about this bug abuse? [23:58] * Ice-Lady places a brick in hers [23:58] <[WP]Nexus01> maybe shoudl have everyone the word to say something abotu 4 9 4 [23:58] <[Sera]Ladybug> well I agree on such matters and I think Leff should show his proof [23:58] <[Dragons]Tuho> 4:9:4 MUST lose max roids :/ and the ships returned [23:58] <[FAnG]Kaifux> no roids/ships changes etc? we move on just like that? [23:58] <[Dragons]Tuho> (20%) [23:58] <[FAnG]Kaifux> and 3.3k stals fleetcathed :/ [23:58] <[Dragons]Tuho> aye [23:58] <[WP]Caliban> ohw come on .. eet and anti eet.. we are here to solve a problem and to help pa.. not to bitch and continue your lil fight here. grow up. this aint about who will get the most about one single planet. [23:58] <[WP]Nexus01> MrBrick give one by one voice and let him talk about 4 9 4, could we do it so pls? [23:58] <[Sera]Ladybug> if he used this bug and openly admits it then he's cheating and should be closed [23:59] <[Ely]cheerios> Seems the knowledge of this bug was quite widely known, if WP knew it and Dragons too ? [23:59] <[FAnG]Kaifux> [WP]Caliban how we can help about it? [23:59] <[FAnG]WebAngel> the point is that if there is a roll back to the tick just before he press the recall button then today he is losing 20% roids and kill no ship [23:59] <[WP]Nexus01> and maybe should the ppl talk who know what was going on [23:59] <[WP]Caliban> well for one stop bitching here and act like adults [23:59] <[FAnG]LEFF> and let me talk [23:59] <[Ely]cheerios> Whole universe gets rollbacked due to 1 attack ? [23:59] <[FAnG]Kaifux> [Ely]cheerios personaly meh found out it NOW 100% (i saw that some times before, like my m8 said, omg 4:9:4 fleet just doesn't show in jumpgate probe) [23:59] <[FAnG]WebAngel> nah [23:59] <[WP]Nexus01> no Session Time: Thu Nov 13 00:00:00 2003 [00:00] <[FAnG]LEFF> ill show it traceable [00:00] <[WP]Nexus01> rollback would have to be to tick 1 [00:00] <[FAnG]LEFF> but i need +m and voice [00:00] <[Sera]RobTD> lol [00:00] <[FAnG]LEFF> and 5 minutes time [00:00] * MrBrick sets mode: +m [00:00] * MrBrick sets mode: +v [FAnG]LEFF [00:00] <[FAnG]LEFF> ok [00:00] <[FAnG]LEFF> step by step [00:01] <[FAnG]LEFF> at tick 1346 4:9:4 did launch his fleet at 15:7:8 [00:01] <[FAnG]LEFF> if you newscan 4:9:4 you will find this [00:01] <[FAnG]LEFF> Launch 1346 The Tho Ki fleet has been launched, heading for 15:7:8, on a mission to Attack. Arrival tick: 1353 [00:01] <[FAnG]LEFF> 15:7:8 has fleet analysis scans [00:02] <[FAnG]LEFF> http://jpaweb01.planetarion.com/showscan.pl?scan_id=69463810 [00:02] <[FAnG]LEFF> as you can see, 4:9:4 did not launch a fake fleet [00:02] <[FAnG]LEFF> he sent his stalwarts [00:02] <[FAnG]LEFF> at tick 1350 we attacked him with cruisers [00:02] <[FAnG]LEFF> our intention was to get him recalled [00:03] <[FAnG]LEFF> but he did nether recall nor get defence [00:03] <[FAnG]LEFF> placidly he stayed at 15:7:8 and roided him [00:03] <[FAnG]LEFF> although he must have been aware of losing many more roids then he would get [00:03] <[FAnG]LEFF> at tick 1353 [00:03] <[FAnG]LEFF> he landed [00:03] <[FAnG]LEFF> http://tools.visionhq.org/parser.php?rid=02e2637e67d68c9fcd10d6a07204d8a0&se [00:04] <[FAnG]LEFF> this is the battlereport [00:04] <[FAnG]LEFF> our counter was eta 4 at this point [00:04] <[FAnG]LEFF> and of course we did jumpgate [00:04] <[FAnG]LEFF> jump*probe* [00:04] <[FAnG]LEFF> him [00:04] <[FAnG]LEFF> our fleets were eta 4 when he landed [00:05] <[FAnG]LEFF> http://jpaweb01.planetarion.com/showscan.pl?scan_id=900233791 [00:05] <[FAnG]LEFF> as you can see there is only 1 defender [00:05] <[FAnG]LEFF> ely did NOT defend him [00:05] <[FAnG]LEFF> 4:9:10 is a terran [00:05] <[FAnG]LEFF> feel free to unitscan him [00:05] <[FAnG]LEFF> so there is absolutly no chance 4:9:4 could have got these stalwarts from outside [00:06] <[FAnG]LEFF> when we landed [00:06] <[FAnG]LEFF> we amazingly got this battlereport [00:06] <[FAnG]LEFF> http://cabeza.lockhead.net/index.php?page=parser&scanid=46564372 [00:06] <[FAnG]LEFF> although his stalwarts landed at 15 7 8 when we were eta 4 [00:06] <[FAnG]LEFF> they returned [00:07] <[FAnG]LEFF> and killed the attacking ships [00:07] <[FAnG]LEFF> short after this [00:07] <[FAnG]LEFF> http://cabeza.lockhead.net/index.php?page=parser&scanid=453814410 [00:07] <[FAnG]LEFF> he killed another bunch of attackers [00:08] <[FAnG]LEFF> i talked to him in galchannel [00:08] <[FAnG]LEFF> about [00:08] <[FAnG]LEFF> and he claimed to hav it done to make this bug public [00:08] <[FAnG]LEFF> he even claimed you would have known about our trap [00:09] <[FAnG]LEFF> ... [00:09] * [Eclipse]Rob is now known as Rob [00:09] * MrBrick sets mode: -m [00:09] <MrBrick> Heh [00:09] <[Sera]Ladybug> amazing [00:10] <[Sera]darts> yeah [00:10] <MrBrick> That's not the way we ask bugs to be reported [00:10] <MrBrick> :)) [00:10] <[Sera]Ladybug> great logs there Leff and scans [00:10] <[WP]Nexus01> now everyone should have undersatnd it [00:10] <[VGN]Soron> hmm [00:10] <[FAnG]LEFF> it WAS a trap [00:10] <[Dragons]Tuho> 4k cruisers lost. instead of 2 ticks of capping [00:10] <[FAnG]LEFF> he did it VERY often [00:10] <[FAnG]LEFF> but never we were able to proof it [00:10] <[WP]Nexus01> and we should talk about that what the attacker shoudl get [00:10] <[Ely]Racer> so "everyone" knew bout it.. noone reported it.. [00:10] <[FAnG]LEFF> i dont know [00:10] <[FAnG]LEFF> HOW [00:10] <[FAnG]LEFF> it works [00:10] <[Sera]Ladybug> I didn't know til today [00:10] <Rob> i didn't know about it until just now [00:10] <[Dragons]Tuho> i just found out as well [00:10] <[Sera]darts> 1st time heard about it [00:10] <[FAnG]LEFF> i just knew that a few guys were doin it [00:11] <[FAnG]Kaifux> [Ely]Racer once i saw it, i thought jumpgate probe bug [00:11] <[VGN]Soron> yeah [00:11] <[Sera]Ladybug> well Rob we arent' alone on this then [00:11] * [Dragons]Tuho was angry at kaifux for "missing" the fleetcatch as it didn't show on the probe, but he never missed a fleetcatch, if it were played fairly [00:11] <[Dragons]Tuho> so, sorry :) [00:11] <[WP]Nexus01> i heard it already a fe wtimes befor btu ever got told "its already reported" [00:12] <[Ely]cheerios> This does feel like a witchhunt.. by the witches themselves. [00:12] <[FAnG]Kaifux> tuho - thnx :) [00:12] <[FAnG]LEFF> again cheerios [00:12] <[FAnG]Kaifux> np [00:12] <[FAnG]LEFF> i claim [00:12] <[FAnG]WebAngel> maybe I am too naive but I have never suspected such a bug in PA before seeing those reports and scans [00:12] <[Sera]darts> well every player knows if u cheat u get deleted [00:12] <[FAnG]Kaifux> just that gives extra trust to meh :P heh [00:12] <[FAnG]LEFF> we do NOT cheat [00:12] <Rob> oh shut up [00:12] <[FAnG]LEFF> if you have ANY proof [00:12] <[Ely]Racer> kiss my ass [00:12] <[FAnG]LEFF> show me [00:12] <[FAnG]LEFF> and ill kick [00:12] <[FAnG]LEFF> the fanger [00:12] <[Sera]Ladybug> cheerios you have been proven wrong so stop with the whining and stop the bitching [00:12] <Rob> one guy exploited a bug [00:12] <[FAnG]LEFF> i did it a couple of times [00:12] <Rob> end of story [00:12] <[WP]Nexus01> Raver cant you act liek a adult? [00:13] <[WP]Nexus01> Racer [00:13] <[FAnG]Kaifux> webangel same here really never thought it's even possible [00:13] <[Ely]cheerios> ladybug: 'heh' [00:13] <[Dragons]Jurgen> I've seen it happening in 6:6:9 [00:13] <[Dragons]Jurgen> didn't know what happened [00:13] <[Dragons]Tuho> 2 ticks of max cap from 2.6k roider ELY, 4k cruisers returned. [00:13] <[Dragons]Tuho> all we ask [00:13] <[Ely]cheerios> I guess we just get accused here till no end. [00:13] <[Dragons]Jurgen> but reported it [00:13] <[Ely]Racer> seems we got 3 bithces in here.. Wp Fang and Dragons.. I smell somethin weird.. and also Part at the same time.. [00:13] * [Ely]Racer has left #HC-Conf [00:13] <Rob> sigh [00:13] <MrBrick> Handbags on the floor please. [00:13] * MrBrick sighs [00:13] <Phil^> can you all act civilised please and stop trolling each other [00:13] <[FAnG]Kaifux> and would be nice of 3.3k stals to be dead :/ [00:13] <[WP]Caliban> oi I aint bitching [00:14] <[Dragons]Tuho> o yes that too kai [00:14] <[FAnG]LEFF> im not bitching [00:14] <Rob> there is one point though [00:14] <[FAnG]LEFF> im telling the truth [00:14] <Rob> we don't know how many other people may have exploited the bug [00:14] <[FAnG]LEFF> and truth hurts sometimes [00:14] <[Sera]Ladybug> I just did what you guys stated your right on the browser [00:14] <[Sera]Ladybug> I waited til tick and used the browser and your right omg [00:14] <[Dragons]Hexy> lol [00:14] <[FAnG]WebAngel> comeon guys try to make it constructive, I guess that MrBrick got our concerns, he is the one who can decide now [00:14] <[FAnG]LEFF> indeed [00:14] * Mit has joined #HC-Conf [00:15] <Rob> the attackers should definitely get their lost fleets back, and the roids they would've capped [00:15] * [VGN]Soron has quit IRC (Quit) [00:15] * MrBrick sets mode: +m [00:15] <MrBrick> One moment. [00:16] <MrBrick> Right. [00:16] <MrBrick> It's going to be let the game tick now, rollback once bug is fixed. [00:17] <MrBrick> or stop ticker now and fix things individually when we get access to the servers. [00:17] * MrBrick sets mode: -m [00:17] <[Dragons]Tuho> rollback is not entirely fair [00:17] <[FAnG]LEFF> the second one I`d suggest - rollbacks everytime piss off the entire community [00:17] <[WP]Nexus01> stop ticks and fix things, att who lost ships get their ships back and their roids [00:17] <[ND]besteman> how long till you get access to the servers? [00:17] <[Dragons]Tuho> as ely will have a chance to get def for the fleetcatch [00:17] <[FAnG]Kaifux> no need of rollback [00:18] <[FAnG]Kaifux> just the ships/roids that's all [00:18] <Rob> it really really would be better if you could just give the planets that lost ships their fleets back [00:18] <[WP]Nexus01> agree with kaifux [00:18] <[FAnG]Kaifux> i prefer individually [00:18] <[Dragons]Tuho> + walken loses his ships [00:18] <[FAnG]WebAngel> yeah [00:18] <[WP]Squidly> agreed rob [00:18] * [Dragons]Tuho votes individually [00:18] <[WP]Squidly> we don't need to piss off the whole community because of a problem that involved only a handful of people [00:18] <mist|zZz> rob: i don't think giving the ships back right now is an option, as i'd imagine it involves re running the battle tick [00:18] <[Sera]Ladybug> I didn't lose ships nor roids but I feel it's unfair for those who did lose them due to this matter [00:18] <mist|zZz> which is tricky before the next tick :P [00:19] <Rob> mist, you're seriously saying that you can't edit ship amounts? [00:19] <Rob> you=whoever has admins tools [00:19] <Mit> only 3 ppl can Rob [00:19] <mist|zZz> it's not the editing that's a problem [00:19] <[WP]Nexus01> 3 are enough [00:19] <Rob> i assume MrBrick is one of them [00:19] <Mit> only 3 have enough acc to edit ships [00:19] <mist|zZz> it's knowing what shipsto give out [00:19] <[FAnG]Kaifux> well not much to be fixed imo [00:19] <Mit> correct mist [00:19] <Rob> it's not rocket science [00:19] <Rob> look at the battle report [00:19] <[WP]Squidly> mist: there were battlereports, don't those count? [00:19] <[FAnG]Kaifux> 4:9:4 - 2 attackers (calc the battle if u want, i think for creators it's not hard) [00:19] <Rob> see how many ships were lost [00:20] <[WP]Nexus01> it have to be fixed onyl a few plaents shouldnt be that much work [00:20] <Rob> add those many ships back to the people who lost them [00:20] <[FAnG]WebAngel> mist|zZz, we have the battle report telling what has been lost [00:20] <[FAnG]Kaifux> and all bs wave in fleetcatch (we got probe) [00:20] <Mit> Rob : ppl delete battle reports :/ [00:20] <[FAnG]Kaifux> well so [00:20] <Mit> we don't have acc to the raw logs. [00:20] <[FAnG]Kaifux> 4:9:4 - 2 attackers (calc the battle if u want, i think for creators it's not hard) and about 25 planets to get bs back [00:20] <[FAnG]Kaifux> the overview [00:20] <Focht|afk> im sure mrbrick got the details ;) [00:21] <[FAnG]Kaifux> and we know the bs amount sent and we know how much they got now - not so hard [00:21] <Rob> there is plenty of proof of what was lost in the attack [00:21] <[FAnG]Kaifux> anyone don't agree? [00:21] <[FAnG]LEFF> I´m fine with it [00:21] <Focht|afk> it isnt to hard to see the breport [00:21] <[Sera]darts> good idea [00:21] <Focht|afk> to calc what ships (namely the stals) shouldnt been there [00:21] <Focht|afk> and to compare the losses [00:21] <Focht|afk> without and with the stals home [00:21] <Focht|afk> thats no rocketsience tho [00:22] <[Ely]cheerios> This doesn't sound like PA, though. [00:22] <[Dragons]Jurgen> btw. [00:22] <[Sera]RobTD> lol [00:22] <[Dragons]Jurgen> this is third time I report stuff from this bug... just realized it now [00:22] <[Dragons]Jurgen> and everytime abusing planet has been elysium [00:22] <[Dragons]Jurgen> 6:6:9 and 4:9:4 I remember [00:22] <[Dragons]Tuho> I have noticed the same :/ [00:22] <[Sera]RobTD> I remember zippy getting a headache because he had to calc 1 mill of resources what the best ships would be :-P [00:22] <[Dragons]Hexy> jurgen [00:22] <Rob> i don't think we need to make this into an alliance issue [00:22] <[Dragons]Jurgen> third 1 I don't remember coords [00:22] <[FAnG]Kaifux> nm [00:22] <Rob> other people may have abused the bug and never got caught [00:23] <[Dragons]Jurgen> I think ely is facing hard times now... that u can't abuse that anymore [00:23] <[FAnG]Kaifux> what's done it's done (now it's public) [00:23] <[FAnG]Kaifux> and we deal just with this [00:23] <[FAnG]Kaifux> as we got no evidence blabla [00:23] <[FAnG]LEFF> jurgen [00:23] <Focht|afk> jurgen you mean like dragons with the exile bug ? [00:23] <Focht|afk> etc etc [00:23] <[FAnG]Kaifux> mkey jurden and tuho? :) [00:23] <[FAnG]LEFF> dont generalize [00:23] <[FAnG]Kaifux> Focht|afk [00:23] <Focht|afk> exactly [00:23] <[FAnG]LEFF> no need to blame the entire alliance [00:23] <Focht|afk> agreeing with leff here [00:23] <[FAnG]Kaifux> yes i wanted to stop that actually :) [00:23] <[Dragons]Jurgen> Focht|afk: we r not gonna face hard times cause of that ^^ [00:23] <[FAnG]WebAngel> Rob, I honnestly dont think that ely is involved, of course is walken has shared this trick with some other ppl, its natural they are Ely [00:23] <[FAnG]LEFF> if you got a definite proff [00:23] <[FAnG]LEFF> the go [00:23] <[FAnG]LEFF> else better say nothing [00:23] <[FAnG]LEFF> even if its hard [00:23] <Focht|afk> sounds fair leff [00:23] <[FAnG]LEFF> ;) [00:24] <[Dragons]Tuho> I disagree leff, but fine :/ [00:24] * [Dragons]Tuho sits in the corner [00:24] <Focht|afk> furthermore its not the first time dragons landed in a bad battle :D [00:24] * [Dragons]Hexy sits with tuho [00:24] <[Dragons]Tuho> focth: it was one of the BEST battles in fact [00:25] <[Dragons]Tuho> wasn't it not? [00:25] <[FAnG]Kaifux> Focht|afk i guess first time because of bug? [00:25] <[WP]Nexus01> we shouldnt discuss alliance stuff here... [00:25] <[Sera]Ladybug> hmmm get real Focht why sling mud we are trying to sort this [00:25] <[FAnG]Kaifux> yes [00:25] <[FAnG]Kaifux> STOP! :) [00:25] * [Dragons]Tuho freezes [00:25] <[Sera]Ladybug> so true this is for this bug [00:25] <[Dragons]Hexy> mr brick? [00:25] <mist|zZz> we have AD for insulting each other etc :P [00:25] <[Dragons]Hexy> are you done in here? [00:25] <mist|zZz> mrbrick's busy shouting at people [00:25] <[FAnG]Kaifux> =) [00:25] <Ice-Lady> Lets try to keep this somewhat relivent pls guys [00:25] <[Dragons]Hexy> shouting? [00:25] <[Dragons]Hexy> him? [00:25] <[Dragons]Hexy> pffft [00:25] <MrBrick> TICKER STOPPED [00:26] <[FAnG]Kaifux> i c [00:26] <[Ely]cheerios> Can we bring all the abusers of bugs in PaX this round punished then ? [00:26] <[WP]Nexus01> hmm we can sleep a night nice bug... [00:26] <[FAnG]LEFF> no [00:26] <[FAnG]LEFF> not yet cheerios [00:26] <[FAnG]LEFF> but we`re workin on it [00:26] <[FAnG]LEFF> to make this a better place [00:26] <[Dragons]Jurgen> TICKER STOPPED [00:26] <[WP]Nexus01> its impossible that all get punished [00:27] <[FAnG]Kaifux> damn i want r9 combat and races back asap O_O [00:27] <[Dragons]Jurgen> [FAnG]Kaifux: tell me about it... :) [00:27] <[Sera]darts> i want free game back [00:27] <[Sera]darts> 20 k peeps playing [00:27] <[Sera]darts> not 3 k [00:27] <[FAnG]Kaifux> heh :))) [00:28] <[FAnG]Kaifux> true true... [00:28] <[FAnG]Kaifux> having 50 accounts O_O [00:28] <[FAnG]Kaifux> lol [00:28] <[Sera]darts> do adverts again [00:28] <mist|zZz> if you wanna tell us what you want, there's threads on the forums for it [00:28] <[Ely]cheerios> How long will ticker be stopped ? [00:28] <MrBrick> Fleets will be fixed as best we can [00:28] <[WP]Caliban> >:) [00:28] <mist|zZz> this isn't the place [00:28] <[Sera]darts> i know [00:28] <[WP]Nexus01> 180k ppl so a endless big universe being a n00b that was fun...but thats not why we are here... [00:28] <[FAnG]Kaifux> MrBrick thnx [00:28] <MrBrick> As we will have to do it manually to avoid rolling back [00:28] <[Sera]darts> but lost me login details and i dont get it mailed [00:28] <MrBrick> which will take some time [00:28] <[FAnG]Kaifux> mist|zZz nothing to talk about :) there was a pause and i just thought.. [00:29] <Ice-Lady> Suggestion forums guys :) [00:29] <[Sera]Ladybug> lol so true on that Ice-Lady [00:29] <[Dragons]Hexy> MrBrick.. thank you for listening to everyone and asking before doing anything [00:29] <Ice-Lady> :) [00:29] <[Sera]Ladybug> can't keep all in one room and expect peace [00:29] <[FAnG]Kaifux> Ice-Lady yeah yeah ;) [00:29] <Ice-Lady> we value your imput :) [00:29] <[Sera]Ladybug> yes agreed thanks MrBrick [00:29] <[Dragons]Hexy> mist thanks you too :) [00:29] <[FAnG]WebAngel> can you give us an update on the bug fixing lets say every night at 22.00 GMT on this channel? [00:29] <[FAnG]Kaifux> MrBrick nice thnx [00:29] <[Sera]darts> thx [00:30] <[Dragons]Tuho> so the roids and all the ships will be taken into account i hope :) [00:30] <Ice-Lady> tbh it was quite civil in here for once :D [00:30] <[Dragons]Tuho> hardly :D well.. :D [00:30] <[WP]Nexus01> MrBrick can i talk to you in pm pls now or later? you never answer me at least today :( [00:30] <Ice-Lady> ah come on... sure it was [00:30] <Ice-Lady> nice to see it [00:30] <[Dragons]Hexy> was very nice [00:30] <[Sera]darts> well was me first time here [00:30] <[Dragons]Hexy> ive seen nasty [00:30] <[Dragons]Hexy> lol [00:30] <[Sera]darts> but what a fking mess [00:30] <[WP]Squidly> ditto :D [00:30] * Kjeldoran has joined #HC-Conf [00:30] * Ice-Lady puts away the large bat she was gonna use on Focht|afk [00:31] <[Dragons]Hexy> lol [00:31] * Ice-Lady grins [00:31] * [Dragons]Hexy takes it and readys it [00:31] <[Dragons]Hexy> ;) [00:31] <Kjeldoran> thx [00:31] <Ice-Lady> only for crowd control ofc :) [00:31] <[Sera]darts> looks like little children here [00:31] <[Dragons]Hexy> sorry kj [00:31] <[Dragons]Hexy> day late dollar short again [00:31] * [Dragons]Hexy wanders off snickering [00:32] <Ice-Lady> oi [00:32] <Ice-Lady> nice pls :) [00:32] <Kjeldoran> :) [00:32] <Kjeldoran> leff pm'd me immediatly to behave [00:32] <Kjeldoran> so I suggest I will heh [00:32] * hatteh has quit IRC (Killed (*.netgamers.org [RECOVER] Ghost removed by hatty (hatter))) [00:32] <Ice-Lady> lol [00:33] <[Sera]darts> i noticed no1 gives a damn about the community [00:33] <[FAnG]WebAngel> ??? [00:33] <[Sera]darts> its all we and they and us [00:33] <Ice-Lady> how u figure ? [00:33] <[Sera]Ladybug> nah many do [00:33] <[Sera]Ladybug> just when things start going then it goes crazy in such matters [00:33] <Ice-Lady> we are ALL part of the community whether we like it or not [00:33] <[Sera]darts> we all love this game MrBrick and rest r working ass of 2 make it funn for us [00:34] <Mit> heh [00:34] <[Sera]darts> its oure duty 2 report bugs so it can befixed [00:34] <Ice-Lady> yes it is [00:34] <[Sera]darts> and MrBrick makes the decisions not us [00:34] <Ice-Lady> which has been done [00:34] <[FAnG]Kaifux> and so [00:34] <Ice-Lady> more than once [00:34] <[FAnG]Kaifux> i would like to add 1 more thing [00:34] <[Sera]Ladybug> that's true but not all will do that but darts as long as the ones that cares for fair play do so then it will help [00:34] <[FAnG]Kaifux> i could call it a bug [00:35] <[FAnG]Kaifux> look more deeper into all scripts related to resourse, resourse income, finance centres (some dudes get not all resourses they should and some gets more... those who get not all got over 100 finance centres or about 100, and those who gets more around 40 - so far i can say) [00:35] <[Dragons]Jurgen> MrBrick: r u still there? [00:36] <[FAnG]Kaifux> i guess everyone can check that if u want feel free really [00:36] <[Sera]darts> im off [00:36] <[Sera]darts> c u guys l8er [00:36] <Kjeldoran> bye [00:36] <[FAnG]WebAngel> nn [Sera]darts [00:36] * [Sera]darts is now known as darts|bbl [00:38] <[Sera]Ladybug> nn darts [00:38] * [ND]besteman has left #HC-Conf [00:38] <[FAnG]Kaifux> nn darts|bbl [00:38] <[WP]Caliban> cya [00:42] <[Dragons]Tuho> thx for the meet [00:42] * [Dragons]Tuho is now known as Tuhoaja [00:44] * [Dragons]Jurgen is now known as Jurgen [00:45] <Kjeldoran> great timing of my joining again ic [00:45] <[WP]Caliban> :) [00:45] <[WP]Nexus01> MrBrick aint here anymore to say something about the finance centre bug? [00:45] <Ice-Lady> i think hes a tad busy [00:46] <[WP]Nexus01> well that could be [00:46] * Rob is now known as Rob`afk [00:46] <[Sera]RobTD> nn all [00:47] <Ice-Lady> nn [00:48] <[FAnG]Kaifux> well and i guess finance centre bug is after this one [00:48] * [Sera]RobTD is now known as RobTD|gone [00:49] <[Ely]cheerios> hehe [00:50] <[Ely]cheerios> Probably will fix ETA0 attackin' as posted on PD. [00:51] * [Dragons]Hexy is now known as Hexy [00:51] * [Sera]Ladybug is now known as Ladybug|game [00:51] * [FAnG]WebAngel is now known as WebAngel [00:53] * Focht|afk is now known as Focht [00:56] * WebAngel is now known as WA|ZzZz [00:58] * Phil^ is now known as Phil^BUSY [01:01] * [WP]Squidly is now known as Afkly [01:01] * Hexy is now known as HexAFK [01:01] <[Ely]cheerios> How many hours of notice before ticker back ? 12hrs? 24hrs ? [01:02] <[WP]Caliban> bet it wont be tonight [01:02] <[Ely]cheerios> Players will be really pissed off without a looong notice time. [01:02] <Ice-Lady> tis 11pm in the UK [01:02] <[Ely]cheerios> 01am here [01:02] <mist|zZz> i *think* it depends how long it's gonna be to fix [01:03] <mist|zZz> but hte great brick will have to say for certain [01:03] <Ice-Lady> its an unanswerable question atm i think [01:03] <[Ely]cheerios> Still, ticker stopped. People head to bed. Can't just "suddenly" continue ticker. [01:03] <Ice-Lady> indeed not [01:03] <Tuhoaja> ¬_¬ [01:03] <Focht> cheerios [01:03] <Ice-Lady> althought that could be fun :D [01:03] <Focht> read your funny pm ;) [01:03] <mist|zZz> there's only one tick been missed at the moment, would restarting it now be so bad? [01:03] <[WP]Caliban> yes [01:04] <[WP]Caliban> since it's announced that they stopped [01:04] <[WP]Caliban> so all are off to bed [01:04] <Ice-Lady> would think it will be down till morning sometime [01:04] * Ice-Lady is now known as Icy|AFK [01:05] <[Ely]cheerios> That's when people really want a rollback, when PA unexpectedly goes up and they miss hours of it - even roids/ships. [01:06] <Tuhoaja> aye.. [01:06] <[WP]Caliban> it should be done till at least some time tomorrow when all know a few hours up front when they will be restarted [01:06] <[WP]Caliban> else the pill of shit will be huge [01:06] <mist|zZz> 9am tomorrow [01:06] <mist|zZz> gmt [01:06] * mist|zZz points to #planetarion topic [01:07] <Tuhoaja> jesus [01:07] <Tuhoaja> we can sleep :D [01:07] <Tuhoaja> i can't remember the last time i slept [01:07] <Tuhoaja> :/ [01:07] <[WP]Caliban> :) [01:07] <[Ely]cheerios> TICKER STOPPED : Problem being worked on as we speak, Ticker stopped till 9:00 GMT 13th Nov [01:07] <[Ely]cheerios> k, good. [01:07] <Kjeldoran> cheerios [01:07] <mist|zZz> now, don't say we never listen :P [01:07] <Kjeldoran> I don't want a rollback now :) [01:07] * Rob`afk is now known as Rob [01:08] <[Ely]cheerios> mist|zZz: well, had to actually say this for it to happen :) [01:08] <Kjeldoran> I just won't everyone abusing it closed, simple [01:08] <Tuhoaja> mist: you never listen :D [01:08] <Focht> kj will we agree to closeing all bug abusers then ? :> [01:08] * mist|zZz slaps Tuhoaja some [01:08] * [FAnG]LEFF is now known as LEFF|bed [01:08] <Tuhoaja> i think I'll listen to some ozzy and after that, some beethoven :D [01:08] <[Ely]cheerios> And I want the money from everyone using the exile bug to create private galaxies.. [01:09] <Tuhoaja> how does the exile bug work btw [01:09] <Focht> "worked" [01:09] <Focht> it hopefully was fixed [01:09] <Focht> you could create private gals [01:09] <Focht> by exiling ppl [01:09] <mist|zZz> something like exciling at the right time? [01:09] <Focht> and makeing your friends exile [01:09] <Focht> yes [01:09] <Focht> you only need to make sure [01:09] <Focht> the gals above you are all full [01:10] <Tuhoaja> ok ic [01:10] <Focht> since the old exile code moved the planet in the first free spot in the top100 [01:10] <[Sera]Titos> the exile bug worked 3 days ago [01:10] <Kjeldoran> yes focht [01:10] <Kjeldoran> I don't care who it is [01:10] <Focht> just had a nice chat with leff about that ;) [01:11] <Kjeldoran> pple who actively abused it deserve to be close, regardless of the alliance [01:11] <Focht> who showed me enough of his honesty :D [01:11] * [WP]Caliban is now known as Caliban [01:11] <Focht> sorry i dont believe you on that [01:11] * Caliban is now known as Calizzz [01:11] <Kjeldoran> too bad focht [01:11] <Focht> just wondering why jurgen voiced loudest [01:11] <Focht> since he didnt bother to report the exile bug [01:12] <Focht> and im sure 99% of the room guys will support that private gals would be a major advantage/ disadvantage [01:12] <Jurgen> Focht: I reported the exile bug and it got fixed.. after that it worked nice for me I think [01:12] <Focht> it didnt get fixed [01:12] <Jurgen> it did [01:13] <Focht> till the day i exiled finally [01:13] <Jurgen> in the beginning of the round when u exiled [01:13] <Focht> to show spinner it worked [01:13] <Focht> it wasnt in the beginning [01:13] <Jurgen> u ended into c20+ [01:13] <Jurgen> and I reported that [01:13] <Jurgen> and got it fixed [01:13] <Kjeldoran> Focht [01:13] <Jurgen> now big gals r filled [01:13] <Focht> it was in tick 1k [01:13] <Jurgen> like they should [01:13] <Kjeldoran> tbh I'm not afraid if they closed all those abusers [01:13] <Focht> no i was saying i love how both fang and dragons try to make it an eclipse tot elysium thing [01:14] <Focht> leff shouting loudly he doesnt blame anyone [01:14] <Focht> yet slagging off in private ely for it [01:14] <Kjeldoran> maybe on another planet yes Focht [01:14] <Focht> shows a doublemral [01:14] <Jurgen> Focht: I remember sum1 posting in ad that there is no Eclipse Ely Tot thing? [01:14] <Kjeldoran> but I have never accused any of the 3 alliances of cheating before so ... [01:14] <Focht> yea so ? [01:14] <mist|zZz> there's little point arguin this here [01:14] <Focht> kj jurgen did [01:14] <Focht> in his mail ... [01:14] <Kjeldoran> Jurgen = dragons [01:14] <Kjeldoran> not FAnG [01:15] <Focht> i didnt say you or ? [01:15] <Kjeldoran> you did [01:15] <Focht> i named leff for showeing his nice amount of honesty here and on fangnet [01:15] <Kjeldoran> both fang and dragons [01:15] <Kjeldoran> you said that [01:15] <Focht> and jurgen for his doublemoral when it comes to bugabuse [01:15] <Jurgen> Focht [01:15] <Tuhoaja> doublemoral.. :D lol [01:15] <Kjeldoran> it's odd though [01:15] <Jurgen> where did dragons get fortress's? [01:16] <Tuhoaja> dragons have never exploitet the exile bug [01:16] <Jurgen> show me galaxy plz? [01:16] <Focht> 16:4 ? [01:16] <Jurgen> 16:4 exiles were run by a guy called aif [01:16] <Kjeldoran> that a second time in 2 weeks a few ely planets seem suspicious [01:16] <Jurgen> any idea what alliance he is in? [01:16] <Tuhoaja> i do! [01:16] <[FAnG]Kaifux> nn [01:16] <Focht> a single guy cant run exiles [01:16] * [FAnG]Kaifux has quit IRC (Quit) [01:16] <Focht> it needs atleast ministers to do so [01:16] <LEFF|bed> focht fs [01:16] <Focht> just to mention that [01:16] <Focht> and he was dragons at the time [01:16] <LEFF|bed> gleich werd ich stinkig [01:16] <Focht> he left dragons [01:16] <Jurgen> yup, but left to join eclipse since felt more home there [01:16] <Jurgen> ;) [01:17] <Tuhoaja> so [01:17] <Tuhoaja> eet = the root of all evil [01:17] <Tuhoaja> ¬_¬ [01:17] <Kjeldoran> nah Tuhoaja [01:17] <Focht> and got let in under the voice of not useing the bug again [01:17] <Jurgen> naah... fury = root of all evil ;-) [01:17] <Focht> which didnt happen since then [01:17] <Kjeldoran> tot actually are ok :) [01:17] <Tuhoaja> ok :D [01:17] <Kjeldoran> mmm Focht [01:17] <Jurgen> Focht: why would he? got his galaxy ready already [01:17] <Focht> so figure [01:17] <mist|zZz> oi [01:17] <Kjeldoran> so you recruited a bug abuser [01:17] <mist|zZz> fury rocked :P [01:17] <Kjeldoran> and took it on his word ... :) [01:17] <[WP]Nexus01> well [01:17] <Focht> yes kj [01:17] <Focht> because its possible to check [01:17] <Kjeldoran> I hope he doesn't screw you then [01:17] <Jurgen> Focht: so u just recruit all cheating dragons? [01:17] <Focht> and because i reported the bug [01:18] * Tuhoaja stomps on eclipse's sandcastle [01:18] <Focht> when i was told [01:18] <[WP]Nexus01> we needed new players so we exiled some from our galaxy where is the problem? [01:18] * MrBrick sets mode: -i [01:18] <Jurgen> Focht: try recruit walken now? [01:18] <Jurgen> 4:9:4 send pa-mail [01:18] <Focht> nah i even vouched more then once to delete him [01:18] <Jurgen> I'm sure under ur control he'll never abuse bugs again [01:18] <Kjeldoran> rofl [01:18] <Focht> well jurgen atleast he wont get told by hc to abuse bugs [01:18] <Focht> like its for dragons [01:18] <Tuhoaja> ok! [01:18] <Focht> who knowingly share it or ? [01:19] <Jurgen> exile? [01:19] <Focht> yea or isnt it strange there were 5 dragons in [01:19] <Jurgen> can u say me eclipse has exiled no signle planet into good gals? [01:19] <Focht> ? [01:19] <Tuhoaja> yes I totally forgot about our instructions for our members.. to abuse bugs. I mean geesh [01:19] <LEFF|bed> Jurgen: the best way to win is still to ally the cheaters, dont you think ? [01:19] <Focht> into good gals ? [01:19] <LEFF|bed> you u can benefit and not getting closed [01:19] <Jurgen> Focht: ever noticed how Faen Exiled into 1:10? [01:19] <LEFF|bed> = perfect solution [01:19] <Jurgen> I suppose not [01:19] <Focht> we have some members exiling [01:19] <Jurgen> but ofc. not [01:19] <Jurgen> since it's eclipse abusing bugs [01:19] <Jurgen> that doesn't count [01:20] <Focht> well the problem is that guy has exiled after the bug was fixed [01:20] <Focht> figure [01:20] <Jurgen> and 1:10 hum... 7 eet planets [01:20] <Kjeldoran> the exile bug is less drastic then the warpbug which 4:9:4 abused [01:20] <Focht> since the bug was fixed when mrbrick took over [01:20] <[WP]Nexus01> everyone used the exile bug damnit [01:20] <Kjeldoran> and probably others [01:20] <Jurgen> Focht: new exile bug is not fixed [01:20] <Jurgen> atleast not according what I've heard [01:20] <Kjeldoran> nice to see an ely planet at top 5 for 1 month and now finding out he's nothing but a cheater [01:20] <Focht> according to mrbrick it should be [01:21] * HexAFK stares at kj [01:21] <Jurgen> Focht: I understand ur consern about saving your allies... but sorry thistime pointing finger will stay at elysium I think [01:21] <Kjeldoran> heh [01:21] <Kjeldoran> ely banned me again [01:21] <Jurgen> maybe next time u'll get it to dragons again [01:22] <Kjeldoran> seems it's obvious they can't deal with the cheaters :( [01:22] * HexAFK drags jurgen back to the den [01:22] * HexAFK is now known as Hexy [01:22] <Focht> or it might be they dont like you kj ;) [01:22] <Focht> wouldnt be the only alliance [01:23] <Kjeldoran> nobody likes me [01:23] * Focht is now known as Focht|afk [01:23] <LEFF|bed> for some good reasons [01:23] <LEFF|bed> :P [01:23] <Kjeldoran> but only you're banning me [01:23] <Focht|afk> ticks are stopped [01:23] <Kjeldoran> and others on occasion [01:23] <Focht|afk> titans did ban you aswell ;) [01:23] <Kjeldoran> ya [01:23] <Kjeldoran> I think titans hated me more then eclipse does now [01:23] <Hexy> come to dragons chan kj [01:23] <Kjeldoran> I got banned there before aswell Hexy [01:23] <Hexy> ill ban ya there too so we conform with the community [01:24] <Afkly> lol [01:24] <Kjeldoran> good [01:24] <Focht|afk> [00:22] <Kjeldoran> I think titans hated me more then eclipse does now [01:24] <Focht|afk> ^^ we dont hate you [01:24] <Jurgen> ;:D [01:24] <Kjeldoran> no [01:24] <Focht|afk> we just keep you banned [01:24] <Hexy> lol [01:24] <Focht|afk> thats 2 pairs of shoes [01:24] <Ladybug|game> lol I never had a problem with Kjeldoran [01:24] <Hexy> ladybuggles [01:24] <Ladybug|game> hexy Session Close: Thu Nov 13 01:25:00 2003